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Opinion: Between the lines

#bankwars: 'Steve' vs Standard Bank, the sequel

12 Mar 2012 10:149 comments5 BizLikes
Oy vey. What a can of worms. In part I, I raised the question of whether FNB's lofty promises, delivered via the chirpy 'Steve', were empty. I did so, as you know, publicly. And I learned two very important things. Here they are:
Important thing #1

If you want your bank to take notice of you, you must:
  1. be someone important (I'm not),
  2. know someone who works there (I don't),
  3. have a gazillion Twitter followers (nope) or
  4. have a Bizcommunity column (yup).
Because then, and only then, do they sit up and acknowledge your existence. This is very sad. Because it means that 95% of the banking population could well be ignored forever if they attempt to raise an issue via the traditional channels.

Important thing #2

Companies lie. Not because they're malicious. Not because they're sneaky. In fact, many companies would love for their lies to be true. But simply because it's the best, quickest, most compelling way to part us from our money. And because it looks so good on paper, sounds so good on radio and makes a helluva TV ad.

This is even sadder. Especially for me. And I've had good cause, over the last week, to seriously evaluate how I will go forward as a writer in this industry.

But - what happened next?

About 24 hours after my Bizcommunity diatribe about the uselessness of FNB, and my shocked admission that Standard Bank seemed to be on the ball for once, I received phone calls from two very serious high-ups, one from each bank.

[I also received my first missive from the elusive @Rbjacobs, who - until that day - had ignored me for three weeks. The extent of his efforts? "I'm sorry to hear about this & my apologies for any inconvenience. Pls mail me on rbjacobs@fnb.co.za; I'll be happy to help."

Seriously? I must email you? I don't think so, buddy. I'm the pissed-off consumer; you phone me.

I didn't reply and he didn't follow up. I wasn't holding my breath, of course. But wait, there's more.]

The FNB response

The FNB higher-up who did call assured me that they took seriously the failure of their online message thingy, and were "investigating" it. They asked several questions, more than once, many of which were loosely based on, "Are you 100% sure that you actually sent us a message via our website?" (Am I an idiot?)

They had no answer for the Twitter and email silences (which, I've subsequently discovered, are common once people actually express an interest in switching), but they did ask permission to have "a top salesperson" call me about switching.

Fairly snottily, I informed them that they'd wasted enough of my time and that the person could call me only if they'd been thoroughly briefed as to my existing bank accounts, needs, banking dislikes, expectations and current bank fees.

S'true's Bob, I get a call from Jane*, an FNB head of sales. She's very keen to woo me. Nice change. She talks me through the switch, which includes easy debit order transfer and automatic internet beneficiary carry-over. She mentions the app. She explains the fees, which are lower than what I'm paying now (but don't cover a whole lot of the things I actually need and which I currently get). She raves about the SLOW Lounge (to which I can't take my own husband free of charge). And she tells me how passionate she is about FNB. (Yay. They pay you, honey.)

She can't tell me

Unfortunately, she can't tell me what I'll end up paying in fees, total. She can't advise me on whether or not to migrate my Marketlink account. She has no response to my explanation that I use a Discovery card for miles and to save 35% on flights - other than to cite eBucks (which gives 25% flight savings at best).

But she can tell me to leave my bond where it is, with Standard, because FNB can't beat its interest rate. And, perhaps worst of all, when I ask her to sum up why I should switch in one sentence, she says, "Because of our value proposition."

Which is? "Well, Mrs Markham, we treat every single client as an individual."

That's nice. But my name is Ms Markman, and somehow, I don't believe you.

The Standard Bank response

A week or so after my Biz contribution, the nice lady from Clearwater calls me again. She wants to "wow" me, she says. Standard Bank is serious about keeping me - and my money. (She doesn't say the last bit, but...) She asks a few questions, promises to review my various accounts and calls me back a few days later.

Can she schedule an appointment to come to my house, at my convenience, accompanied by a top private banker? They want to explain what they can do.

And they did. They answered my questions. They were prepared. They got my name right. They have an impressive offering, one that seems to meet all of my needs. So I've decided to stay where I am - but I'm upgrading my accounts.

And in the end?

After all this hoo-ha, I'm going to be paying Standard Bank about R1000 a year more than I was. No discounted iPad. No iPhone app. But, I feel special.

Banks, you can't put a price on that. Make us feel special. Do what you say you'll do. Have a kick-ass clever ad campaign if you want one, but be sure that you can deliver what you say you can. Give us the basics - reliably, consistently, uniformly. Otherwise, you're just another company that lies.

And, in the name of all that is holy in the universe, get our bleeding names right. Please.

*Not her real name.
 
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About Tiffany Markman

Tiffany Markman is a highly opinionated freelance copywriter, copy editor and writing trainer who has worked for over 180 clients in South Africa and across the world. She is an EMPOWERDEX-certified EME who hates misplaced apostrophes and dangling modifiers but loves pizza and pina coladas. Read more at www.tiffanymarkman.co.za, reach her anytime on , follow @tiffanymarkman on Twitter and sign up for her newsletter.View MyBiz profile and articles...
Tiffany Markman
So, my thing is: Banks, make us feel special. But it's also: Get the basics right. What's your thing? If your bank (or banks in general) could do only one thing better, to make you happier, what would it be? I'd love to know.

Tiffany Posted on 12 Mar 2012 12:05
Dionne Domyan-Mudie
I have also decided to stick with Standard Bank after FNB sms'd me to say that had been trying to get in touch with me all day ( had no missed calls or messages) and told me I should be phoning them back! Needless to say I didnt bother Posted on 12 Mar 2012 16:48
Gwen Watkins
Many years ago, I got a call asking for 'Gail Watson'. "No," I said, "you must have the wrong number." However, she repeated my cellphone number correctly. I agreed it was my number and asked, “Who are you?” “I am your new private Nedbank banker,” she replied. She seemed quite huffy, when I replied, “Well as you cannot get either my first name or my surname correct, I see no reason to continue this call.” I then tracked down my private banker, who had been moved to another branch and carried on dealing with him. When will banks learn that a relationship means that – a continuance with the same individual not a one-night stand with a call centre? Posted on 12 Mar 2012 17:16
Ian Snelling
Sympathy is found in the dictionary Tiffany...between sycophant and syphilis. banks are really on a par with second hand car salesmen, politicians and (dare I say it?) reporters needing a quick story. I call my bank, "my favorite camel". Not because I have any affection for it but because it is the one I hate the least. Posted on 12 Mar 2012 17:21
Andre' Misrole
Lol.. Posted on 12 Mar 2012 19:28
Jack Spiro
Poor service??? As they say "U aint seen nothing yet" customer for 10 years + lose job = bank goes to war!! sit around the table and find a sensible solution = script of a Leon Schuster movie / see http://www.mawandi.co.za/without-money-there-is-no-justice.html Posted on 12 Mar 2012 21:34
Suzanne Little
Great article.
I think the communication problems us social customers are having, is due to the lack of technology powering our engagement with a bank, or any product or service that offers support online.

I switched to FNB purely because of the smooth talking @RBJacobs and because I am a serious Social CRM advocate. The problem is that I would expect him to remember me and how often we have engaged on Twitter. The truth is he is definitely more than one person and I can't expect him to have my previous conversation in front of him.... or can I?

Online brand relationships are being driven by the social customer. Businesses who dive into building social engagement strategies with their customers also need to understand how important it is to have the internal business processes functioning smoothly to handle online queries or feedback from customers.

I have been waiting for a response from my other bank for 3 weeks after I posted on Facebook. The truth is, the company that manages their social media accounts is doing a great job but there is a disconnect between them and the banks internal processes to respond to social engagement.

Building a social business that has a technological framework that is geared for Social CRM is where are social marketing / engagement is heading.

Get on board now. Posted on 13 Mar 2012 16:35
BrownGal
Buddy. U aint seen nothing yet when it comes to bank incompetency and being unprofessional. I have had an MTN number for 2 years now, and since I got that number, I've had over 100 calls n smsz from Standard Bank. Askn 4 a Mr Louw. Which I'm not, I'm an Indian girl. I'v told dozens of their agents that I'm not him, even sent emails to Customer Care. But to date, they still disrupt me at work n home. I became so frustrated I took to Twitter yesterday. I sent 7 consecutive tweets, which they replied to sayn, send us your number, we'll sort it out. I had the urge to say "u should have my number since you call n sms me 10 thousand tyms a day. I msgd back giving my email add, n told them to email me n I'll gv them my number. Still waitn 4 that email n still getting the calls n smsz. The best part is I DNT EVEN BANK WITH THEM. I hv n FNB acc. N i love it. They're so professional n helpful. My whole family has FNB n they'v all taken the iPad n Blackberry deals. FNB know affordability n customer service n a Customer's Worth. Posted on 14 Mar 2012 10:38
Zak Cronje
I posted a few words in comments on Part 1. With this I just reiterate my feelings about FNB and me switching to STD. Thanks for the help Tiffany. A note, Jane* probably saw you mentioning that your'e married in Part 1 and thus used Mrs. Still, for women Ms is seen as default use in professional encounters. Posted on 10 Jul 2012 17:57
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