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Comments on Freedom to Laugh it Off?
 
Well...
I don't think the Laugh It Off campaign was to attack companies such as SAB. I got the impression they were making use of well-known phrases by well-known brands and creating awareness about more pressing issues (I stand corrected).

I don't see why SAB had to kick up such a fuss about intellectual property because the shirts didn't imply that SAB is guilty of any wrong-doing.

It was a fun way of expressing an issue.
30 May 2005 14:48   Reply, Report this comment
 
I could be wrong...  by  Ugly(D)
But I get the feeling that, LIO, made more brand awareness for SAB... Think about, most people who saw the T-Shirts, are SAB consumers... cause they appreciate the humour behind the Brand... So what if LIO, is making a bit of a profit. I actually found it rude for SAB to attack them in the first place. But then again, we cant just have people infringing on Corp Trade Marks, it would just get out of control.

But if SAB had instead of attacking, but joining those ideas together... there would have been more than just brand awareness... perhaps making history, or recognising that no matter what, we all are born from our fathers sins...

That's just my feelings though...

Ugly(D) Proudly Zamalek
30 May 2005 16:20   Reply, Report this comment
little guys are cuter !  by  miseroi
of course this is about size; but these superbrands are big enough to be instant-association icons - its petty and uninspiring when they squash the babies... and puts another leash on creativity.
SABMiller only squealed coz this particular message hit SO VERY close to home!
31 May 2005 01:32   Reply, Report this comment
You might be next
Erosion of a company's intellectual property rights. Plain & simple.
Who is next?
30 May 2005 16:11   Reply, Report this comment
 
FNB laughed it off
When LIO parodied FNB's logo with a dagga leaf and the line Finest Natural Bankie (or something), FNB had the good sense to buy up a whole lot of the T-shirts for their staff.

They could have gone "ooooh, people will think we deal drugs on the side if we don't sue the T-shirt company" but they didn't, and as far as I am aware no one closed their FNB account because of LIO.

So full marks to them for having more of a sense of humour than SAB!
30 May 2005 16:47   Reply, Report this comment
 
...so did Virgin, but not Viagra...  by  devil's advocate
...it is obviously not important for a company that sells alcohol and pleasure to take itself too lightly. Everybody knows the t-shirts did no damage to either their billions of profits or the Carling brand - more damaging perhaps in miniscule sectors was the lack of goodwill demonstrated by SAB, but probably not enough for them to lose sleep over. If you have a brand worth protecting, you need to stay ahead of the game, really strong and authentic brands cannot be imitated. Nike on the other hand deserve what they get for using child labour, ironically it's that same people that have the most to lose from cheap Asian knockoffs, that are the one's buying them!
30 May 2005 17:30   Reply, Report this comment
SAB Employee  by  Curious
You must be a SAB employee right?
31 May 2005 08:18   Reply, Report this comment
 
A bunch of ass.... at SAB  by  adguy
I'm so happy for Justin Nurse. And I hope the people at SAB who obviously have no sense of humor get fired. I don't think SAB realise the damage they've done to their brand. I for one now see SAB in a different light.
31 May 2005 08:42   Reply, Report this comment
 
Bully tactics  by  DEE
SAB was definitely ill-advised by its legal team. There were other channels they could have used to settle the matter amicably instead of flexing muscles on small-time guys like Justine and company. SAB forget that it is such small-time people that spend a fortune imbibing SAB's not so luscious products. They have only succeeded in intimidating their customers. Shame!
1 Jun 2005 12:28   Reply, Report this comment
White Guilt  by  Black Labour
Bull... When I first saw the shirt I had a good laugh and started drinking "Zamalek" (Black Label).

The message "Black Labour, White Guilt" basically commented on the use of hard working mine workers to sell the brand in the 80's (I think...). It was a comment on SAB in the 80's NOT today - loads of companies were dodgy and unethical in the 80's and I thought it was fair comment!

So after the whole mess of the trial, will I drink SAB - no... Wake up SAB you damaged your own brand...
31 May 2005 09:24   Reply, Report this comment
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19 Jul 2007 19:53   Reply, Report this comment
SAB can laugh it off!
3 Cheers For The Constitutional Court & Justin Nurse!

I just wanted to express what a reassuringly warm and fuzzy feeling i have in my heart at the recent Constitutional Court ruling in favour of Laugh It Off after such an arduous battle with SAB. I find it laughable that such a song and dance has been made over these brillant t-shirts! The mere fact that someone has successfully parodied your brand shows what a powerful brand it is, otherwise it wouldn't have been recognised in the first place. I personally think that SAB's reaction to the shirts and the extent to which they drew the issue out has hurt the brand more in the long run than any humble shirt could ever begin to achieve! So long to the brand image of friendship, sharing,and equality and hello to a bitter aftertaste in south african mouths. They have nobody to blame but themselves.

Big ups to Justin Nurse and his crew, and our boys at the Constitutional Court! You've done us proud :)
30 May 2005 20:33   Reply, Report this comment
 
exactly!  by  lorna guinness
go justin!
31 May 2005 06:20   Reply, Report this comment
Hear Hear - amazing where a little humour and common sense can take you  by  Kate
And a little humour and common sense would have been a much cheaper way of SAB doing something positive for their image rather than cementing the monopolizing bully angle.
31 May 2005 08:55   Reply, Report this comment
SAB should use this to their advantage  by  Craig
SAB should invite the 'Laugh it off' crowd for a few beers - laugh it off and gain the respect of the entire student population that follow the rebels. It amazes me how a beer company, which sells alcohol, which is supposed to help people have a laugh in a social setting, can take itself so seriously. It shows us how backward SAB are when it comes to humour. I mean if you compare overseas beer ads to theirs you can understand. All SAB produce is pro South African smultz while the likes of Fosters, John Smiths etc have are creating very funny ads that make people laugh.

The Black Labour t shirts were clever but now they are legendary thanks to SAB making such a big thing out of them.
31 May 2005 08:45   Reply, Report this comment
Carling can make an ad  by  Ann
I posted this comment on the item about the new Carling ad, but interestingly I can't see it there ... (conspiracy). Anyway, Carling should make an ad about this group of hardworking ordinary young guys with an innovative business idea - humourous t-shirts - they are are then bullied by a multinational but they rise to the challenge and win the day. (you can still get the obligatory muscle shots by showing them doing some screen printing!!)
31 May 2005 09:02   Reply, Report this comment
 
Re: Carling can make an ad  by  LA
Brilliant idea! Look at the whole Nando's & Manto 'thighs' saga..
1 Jul 2005 15:22   Reply, Report this comment
Wonderful News !  by  Deeks
It's about time the big corporates were told where to get off ! U the man DM !
31 May 2005 10:21   Reply, Report this comment
 
bye, bye SAB
I must be honest, I've never been a fan of Laugh it Off. I thought their t-shirts were trite and immature and about as far removed from politcal commentary as Jozie from Mars. But geez, the way SAB handled things was shocking. (Can anyone say 'Telkom'?)I can't say I'll be supporting their products from here on out.
31 May 2005 13:36   Reply, Report this comment






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