Cape Town based radio station 104.9 is shaking things up a bit with a new line-up in 2006. Gavin Meiring, newly appointed CEO of the station, says it's all about 'listening to listeners'.
"104.9 offers Capetonians a place to belong and where they feel at home. It's about fostering and nurturing a friendship with our audience to help us get closer to them. I feel we are hitting the right note after intensive research into defining our perfect music format.
"The music format has been polished from being a primarily jazz radio station when we first launched, to an urban AC format with slight jazz undertones. You will hear all your familiar favourites on the station, with personalities on the station to co-incide with the overall tone of the station."
Newcomer to the station is Ayanda Pini, who started her radio career only four months ago working for a retail radio station. She is doing the graveyard shift at 104.9 - weekdays between 4am and 6am.
People of the Light's Koketso Sachane will switch places with Clarence Ford between 12pm and 3pm weekdays. The programme is primarily music driven interspersed with details on what's topical in Cape Town.
Ford brings his mellow attitude to listeners from 6pm until 10pm (Mondays to Thursdays), and on Fridays the time channel is covered by Bongani Njoli.
e-tv's weatherwoman Saskia Falken will broadcast between 10am and 2pm on Saturdays and Sundays.
This new CEO says his listening to the people, thats bull#!@#$, otherwise he would know the people loves the name "P4 Radio" (they had a public vote a few months agao), so why the change to 104.9 (get real, when you in Bellville it's 102.something). also the music has been urban ac for the last two year ( get real brother) and why move your est DJ Clarence Ford to a later slot?
It sickens me when they import people from other cities to run a radio station in CT, when they know nothing about the people, their wants and needs.
this "last straw" attempt will break P4's back for sure.
Qúestion: where are the guys who took P4 past 300 000 listeners, hey??? Posted on 9 Jan 2006 11:56
FYI - The complex that you wrote about Durban having belongs to you CT....it's no wonder Durban is hosting the A1 Grand Prix ....maybe you should think before making such comments! clearly you have no idea that Durban is one of the fastest growing cities of the world. Not to mention the Round the World Clipper Yacht race that stopped over in Durbs (I wonder why CT never got to host that) Now who's inferior. get over yourself. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 07:35
CT did not want the A1, they bidding for the F1, don't you read tour news. they also host a leg of the biggest boat race in the word, now do you know what that is? Then they have fashion week, world designer week, etc, etc do you want me to continue? By the way, i'm not from CT, I live in Joburg, spend a few days a month in CT. NOW???? Posted on 11 Jan 2006 08:44
I don't think Ryan will waste his time on forums like this.
Isn't he on air now??
I post this cos I am the Ox on the Box (also known as The Buffel from Boksburg)
Plus I think U should go back to work my friend. I have just been to the toilet on the 8th floor and it looks a mess. Please man! Do your job! anbd this will count as a first written WARNING!! Posted on 11 Jan 2006 16:10
@Mr Gavin Meiring, I'll try and put some perspective into it-
Okay guys, enough with all the other crap, let’s focus. Gavin Meiring, as I said when you joined P4 Radio, you not able to relate to the station and more importantly the people of CT, cause you don’t understand what makes these people tick, ask 5FM and Metro, they can't penetrate this market, you need to be able to relate to them, ask Neil Johnson, he could never and fucked up badly. You are already making mistakes by letting top DJ’s go and trying to change the music, at this moment that’s the last of your problems. Get all your procedures, policies, behind the scenes staff in order and focus on a three year plan which should include a decent marketing budget and a decent budget for DJ’s. Your current quick fix solution won’t help you at all. Posted on 12 Jan 2006 09:25
Hear hear dude! I'm backing you 100% on this one. However, if you can remember GHFM a few years ago after they fired Paul Kay and crew. GHFM went down and then their new station manager took over (Helen Graham) and she's from JHB. She really turned the station around and look now. They're touching on 600 000 listeners already (latest RAMS). So i agree with you that Gavin must get his facts straight first but maybe the change won't be that bad either. As long as P4 (or whatever they're called now) just don't lose their identity. Posted on 12 Jan 2006 09:31
My friend, Helen was not the force behind GHFM's revival, it was the vision of a certain Mr Abrahams, who already had the plan in his mind and he needed somebody to implement. Helen was put there to implement, she might not have had the overview radio skills, but she was good at implementing and very pedantic about things, she dotte every i and crossed every t. Besides that, if you have the muscle of the SABC with their big budgets behind you, you can't fail. P4 might not have the muscle to carry their new manager.
Also, GHFM's music sound great, but they stll not as great on the programming side, especially their DJ's and also remember, they have not gone back up to the 700 000 mark, yet! i know this because i worked as a business analyst for the SABC. Now my work includes media and although i do monitor media alot, i also travel the country often, which helps me. I hope my views are okay as i never specialised in radio, but i do understand it. Posted on 12 Jan 2006 09:50
Mandla speaks sense. In terms of business you have to sort out and fine tune everything that makes a a radio station work. Once you've mastered the basics and the ordinary stuff eventually you'll be able to try the extraordinary and grow as an organisation to become a self-running cash cow. Not sure what's going down in Meiring's head but I think he's been in the business long enough to know the right road to take.
I'm in no position to tell another man how to do his thing, but I do know that whether you're a commercial radio station or not you need listeners. Money talks and that comes from advertisers who wanna reach out to listeners... and as many of them as possible. So GM needs to refine his basics while he tries to attract listeners; a tough job for this particular new CEO. He's made these changes; I don't listen to P4 so I don't really know the impact it has on the folk of CT and I can't comment on whether it's a good or a bad move; he's chosen his tactic, lets see where it goes...
I can't believe how long it's taken to for this forum to come back to the original topic of discussion. Everytime I open this page it looks more and more like a whores nest... Posted on 12 Jan 2006 13:17
True, Randall's vision clearly made the brand more sellable. BUT apparently Tokyo Sexwhale is the new OWNER of P4 so maybe they're not that broke after all. Where GHFM's music is concerned, I'm actually not a fan of it. Also, I do agree that there are some DJ's who need alot of work and many of the DJ's do not have on-air relationships with their news readers and sports presenters (and that's where I should give Aden and Julian praise). GHFM's music sucks big time. They hardly play the classics - I'm talking about snoop dogg back in the day. But they do play alot of jazz. Who's compiles their music? Do you know perhaps? Posted on 12 Jan 2006 10:20
Why do they always mess with a formular that "we" the people of CT love.
New blood does not always sweep clean, sometimes it messes things up. The new CEO thinks that if he hangs out at G-Spot he'll understand his listeners better, I've got news for him, You'll never understand the coloured people of CT,so enjoy our smiles for now my friend!
P4 has been cooking for the last 3 years, if ou want to improve things, PLAY MORE JAZZ!!! Posted on 9 Jan 2006 12:08
I wonder why P4 did not mention the fact that Aden is leaving the end of Jan and that Theo will no longer be on air...........I also wonder who will be taking over from them? Posted on 10 Jan 2006 14:57
P4's Dj's are wanna be's that copy GHFM. They copy all the same stuff like the old school they play on a Friday in Nigel Pierce's Breakfast show. Plus p4's DJ's are boring and un-original. Good Hope Rulzz Posted on 10 Jan 2006 10:17
DUNNO WHERE U BEEN SWEETIE... BUT OBVIOUSLY U WERE BORN YESTERDAY AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RADIO IN THIS CITY. nIGEL IS NOTHING BUT A COPYCAT. oL SKOOL ON RADIO GOES BACK TO GUYS LIKE lEE dOWNS AND cLARENCE fORD WHEN nIGEL WAS STILL TRYING TO GET INTO RADIO AND BE THE gILLMAN RIPOFF THAT HE IS. wAKE UP. iF U DON'T KNOW ANYTHING SHUT THE HELL UP! Posted on 26 Jan 2006 17:29
In response to the several comments on the site regarding the refresh of 104.9 in Cape Town, I think that this reaction is only to expected from a station whose listener's are so passionate about it's well being.
As one of the listeners indicated, obviously I am never going to learn about Cape Town by just visting the G Spot or any other other night spot in the city. I base my infomation on scientific research on the market and this is the basis for any good radio station.
Interesting enough the results show that very little needs be done in terms of the music product and a refresh of the name of the station will just change some perceptions that have might have existed with listeners who do not listen to us. We plan to GROW this radio station not CHANGE it.
As far as the weekday line up changes are concerned they have come about with consultation and agreement with the presenters concerned and the weekend changes are someting we felt was needed to again increase listeners during that time.
By the way I am from Durban not JHB. Posted on 10 Jan 2006 10:57
This seems to be worse than the ANC Succession debate which unfortunately for the ANC has come up to early. So why then Mr. Meiring do you choose to make the same mistake by delaying, one might even say you're bordering on denying the fact that Aden Thomas is leaving. Call a spade a spade and set the record straight and lay this debate to rest. Posted on 12 Jan 2006 00:24
I think you've got to understand one thing; P4 belongs to the people of CT, that's why the license was granted, to service 24 to 49 year old Cape Tonians. Besides the Kids who love Goodhope FM, we LOVE our station and that is why there was steady growth, the community supported P4 Radio.
So, Mr. Meiring it's great of you to take ownership as CEO, so you should, because we will hold you accountable at the end of the day.
Good luck and we will see you at the G Spot Posted on 10 Jan 2006 14:26
Top DJ's P4 ever had, in order: 1. Aden (made the biggest impact) 2. Clarence ( the personality and ladies loved him) 3.Natano-Nate-D ( the funkiest DJ), where is he 4. Natalie- Cool and sexy 5. Selwyn- (for his Old Skool)
So please leave Aden, Clarence and Natalie alone Posted on 10 Jan 2006 14:30
Anyone who has lived in cape town since p4's inception knows that P4 had stagnated growth wise. These changes that have been implemented by gavin are in my view the kick in the butt that p4 requires in-order to realise its full potential as a commercial station. Let us look at the two primetime Jocks that everyone is complaining about, namely: Aden and Clarence. Aden has hosted the Breakfast show on P4 for over seven years and in that period has never managed to create the no1 breakfast show in cape town. Even when Good hope was in its slump he never managed to catapult himself to the no1 spot instead Nic Marais from Kfm kicked his behind. In my opinion, if you cant shape up over a period of seven years then its time to ship out brother. Then there is Clarence Ford, granted I think that he has a huge following in Cape town because of his years at goodhope and the countless slots he has been on at p4 since its inception. I think that clarence was not well suited to a lunchtime show and the slot that he is on now better suits his personality. Having said that I don't think that Koketso will work well on this slot either because of his somewhat laid back personality which is very similar to clarence. Gavin and Selwyn are then left with the task of finding a suitable lunchtime host in 2006. Maybe the new girl Ayanda could do it who knows. Here is a thought, Bongani Njoli did lunchtime pretty well at goodhope back in the day, maybe Gavin should call on his expertise. AS for people hating on Gavin because he is from Durban. Before all of you start shooting off at him give him a chance because I think he knows what he is doing. look at this man's credentials and what he did for East coast radio in Durban. Today East Coast is one of the premier brands in SA radio partly because of him. Before we let emotion and our proudly Capetonian attitudes cloud our judgement, let's sit back and watch a station literary fly to the top. Overall I think the changes will be good for p4. I'm waiting to here though about Aden's replacement. This one could be very tricky. Posted on 10 Jan 2006 14:38
gav, ey my bru, well done, i know when u around theres no passengers, you'll eventually weed them out, cos u know radio, jus keep doing what u doing like u doing it for radio, ps, shad season starts soon lahnee
You make no sense Staarr or whover you really are-
First of all Aden’s only been at P4 since 2001, so get your facts right. Second of all, everybody knows Nic Marais show was “rated” the biggest because of KFM’s footprint which stretches as far as George. Aden was technically hosted the biggest breakfast show broadcasting to Urban Cape Town, I know that because Aldrin Naidoo of the Argus ran a story about radio stations at the time. Let’s know our facts Staarr or Gavin or whoever you want to be. The only thing I will say made sense in your sentence, was moving Bongani to a weekday slot, other than that you make no sense. P4 always done well, even in bad times, we loved and supported the station.
by the way, this is not a CT Vs Durban thing, Gavin is getting his chance and we support him becausewe want P4 to work. Posted on 10 Jan 2006 14:58
Hey Mandla, what's good charlie...?? it's been a while s'bali..... are we goin to have another nasty episode dude...? Hope not, gotta tell you though, I respect your passion homie... Posted on 10 Jan 2006 16:49
who are these guys from EC, why are you guys attacking people ?-
Until you guys from East Cast or West coast came along, this was all about radio and the role it plays in CT and you guys could not let people voice their opinion.
Why, who are you defending? and why? do you know the guy? then your opinions are tainted.do you guys know and understand what these people are saying,this station represents their city and their culture, so why attack people guys?
hey man don't get it twisted, I'm definately not gavin meiring. I'm who I am and I think my opinion is valid regardless of my oversight in facts. Even if Aden has worked for the station since 2001, my point still stands that he has to go. Five years is an awfully long time for someone to have a breakfast show that is techically no1 even though the other stations are not doing well at the time. My point is that from a commercial standpoint Aden's show has become a liability. It does not make sense for any radio boss to keep paying a jock exorbitent amounts of money when he is not pulling in the numbers. Aden's show was just not growing and for this reason I think he should be off air or be allocated another slot where he can re-invent himself. I have nothing against the man, i think he is very talented. However it is a pity that he did not convince more Capetonians over this 5 year period of his afore mentioned talents on the breakfast show. I hope this makes some sense to you Albert and perhaps clarifies my standpoint on p4 and its recent changes. Let's not get personal and emotive about this issue as Kashif has decided to. And to Mandla pls dude throw your conspiracy theories out of the window. There is no plot here from any East coast cronnies to take over cape town and your beloved station p4. We are all trying to grow here and this forum is a space for all of us to engage with each others ideas. Posted on 10 Jan 2006 15:45
I rest my case, you seem to have all the facts and figures at your finger prints, How?
If you know anything about CT, you would have seen the Inroads Aden made In our city without being marketed, so please spare me. He remains the biggest DJ CT has ever seen, he was unique and he could relate. the impact he had on the people was tremendous, in a positive way! HE WAS HUGE Posted on 10 Jan 2006 15:51
Again I have to say I am not Gavin. Pls Gavin post a comment to vindicate me here. Albert I dont disagree with you, Aden was huge. However with all the opportunity and marketing support he had at his disposal, he could have been bigger.He was big with a certain section of the population. When the other stations literary gave away their audiences through faults of their own, he should have said thank you and took this opportunity and ran with it. But instead he still remained somewhat mediocre with all of these chances of absolute domination presented to him. Maybe it was not solely his fault, perhaps management has to shoulder some of the blame on this who knows. I wish him all the best of luck in what ever he does. I still mantain that he could do much better in another slot. Here is a thought, maybe he should replace the slickman lee downs. Maybe that will make you happy Albert. Posted on 10 Jan 2006 16:04
I love the maturity on this forum between GHFM and 104.9 listeners. If you look at ECR's RAMS the last two years I think Gavin has a bit of an idea what he is doing with the station. You also can't compare the station to GoodHope. I would say GoodHope is in the lead when it comes to production, personality and marketing their brand. Let's see what Gavin comes up with in time. Posted on 10 Jan 2006 17:17
DjZj- don't be igonrant, you sound so good on radio-
Don't you know DJ's are not vey intelligent, that's why I run a company and have a masters, you??? nothing my dear.
most DJ's sound stupid on radio and you want to tell me you've never heard of Gillmans morning show in CT, Clarence's smooth silky voice and I'm almost sure you've never heard of Nate- Dogg (have you seen him in action), that's if I think who you are and you from Joburg, right? Posted on 11 Jan 2006 11:27
A few changes here and there won't change the overall sound of the station, it'll just refresh it.
The fresher 104.9 sounds the more listeners you'll attract. Anyone who knows the smallest thing about radio will tell you that more listeners means more everything: money, music, advertisers, concerts, bigger competitions; EVERYTHING.
The size of a station depends on listeners and Meiring wants to take your station, the station that you've come to love and enjoy and move it to the millions. The changes wouldn't have been this subtle if he didn't have the capetonians best interests at heart.
GHFM may think they have the formula, but even if you're on the right track, if you just sit there you will get run over.
Kashif tone down on the insults dude. This is not very good for Cape town. It does not do your cause any favours. After this display of moronic ignorance goodluck if anyone ever takes you seriously in here. Chill man. Posted on 10 Jan 2006 15:52
.dude i see they let you out the cage again, there you go with your theories and sh%*%, and hey kashif, theres a guy who had a single, KASHIF, it was called GOLDEN BROWN, that will be the colour of the skidmarks on your calvin kleins if you try to f@#&^%& around wid peeple ya dont know, besides, get over your self, ps, i come from POFFADDER, so what you say now china, aibo, eish,,, grow up, sies tog Posted on 10 Jan 2006 15:54
How did this go from talking radio to personal insults? Kashif is it really the way you want the rest of SA to see Cape Town people ... You Jerry Springer wanna be! Do you have radio experience? and i'm not talking Trailer Trash FM! Let a good man do his job, he has been in the business for a while. Posted on 10 Jan 2006 17:31
Nigel Pierce was a Gillman wannabe, Graeme White was never on top of his game, Man you know nothing. and Nic Marais, please, his own city does not know him.
in the good old days it was: 1. Gillman - rocked CT in the morning 2. Clarence - Mr Smooth 3. Nate Dogg (Nathaniel) was not only the top club DJ, he had the best dance show on radio, from clubs. GHFM was the first to do this.
dear all, you are hereby personally invited to the big ass party, location to be confirmed soon, when p4 ctn raises the bar, shows increase in listenership, becomes a better company to work for, period, we'll have a few drinks, and celebrate the success of another south african broadcaster, thats it, no i told you so's blah blah blah, and be mates, get drunk, come back the following monday and slam each other again, on line, man i cant wait, peace all
Those were the daze when Good Hope was tha station. They had Gillman, Grahm White, Clerance Ford, Dmitri Jaygles, Rob Vayda, Paul Kay, Nigel Pearce, Martin Gergidon, Nate Dog Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:07
TOP DJ'S- I second Rudy, that was the best line up-
I second Rudy when he say: Those were the daze when Good Hope was tha station. They had Gillman, Grahm White, Clerance Ford, Dmitri Jaygles, Rob Vayda, Paul Kay, Nigel Pearce, Martin Gergidon, Nate Dog
and don't forget BAD BOY T Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:12
Everybody knows that CT has more tourists, money, the wickedest Jazz vibe in the country and of course Table Mountain and the awesome view of the horizon from it (let us not forget those incedibly amazing conventions you have). Of the 3 major cities we all know Durban is refered to as the poor cousins in SA. I'd visit CT tommorow if I could. Everone knows Cape Town is the shizzle. Nobody's arguing that... what we're arguing is the evident resistance to change and a little change at that.
Where would we as South Africans be today if not for change? Posted on 10 Jan 2006 19:28
P4 is playing music so far outside of it's license agreement that it would only take a few letters from their competitors to ICASA to have serious penalties imposed or even their license revoked. They started off playing "smooth jazz" and soon enough realised that this particular market was too small and then started copying GHFM's format. Bad move considering that GHFM can't even get this format right and has been almost consistently losing listeners over the last few years. P4 and GHFM both have bad management, personal empires, DJ's with nothing to say and no originality... Cape Town radio really offers nothing to the late 20's early 30's person. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 08:18
Dear "non-marketing man". If you look at my comment you'll notice that I said "has been almost consistently losing listeners over the last few years". This means, dear non-marketing man, that they have radically decreased in audience figures since about 3 or 4-years ago.
If you understood marketing you would realise that one never merely look at one research period, but rather a trend to establish an overall view. In this case, one would look at where the stations were after significant change in the market place (e.g. new licenses granted, broadcast policy reviews etc) and where they are now. There have been no significant changes over the past 3-4 years (apart from amendments to the research methodology) so extrapolation can still be done and this clearly indicates that GHFM for one is on a radical decline.
Now, go away and stop bothering the marketing people and stop calling people "idiots". It's not nice and it shows a lack of communication skill. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 09:21
where are you getting your research from, the 1980's. Both stations over the last 18 months have shown increases with Goodhope showing the most progressive growth. Should'nt that be showing up in your research. Also if you know the RAMS you will probably have noticed that the moving up and down of listernership runs in a consistend trend over certain periods, as with most stuff. Hey but what do I know, im just an average Joe from the street, no marketing degree.
Marketing people think they know the "people", in actual fact you are probably so far away from the people that you so called are trying to sell/market too. Like using people with a "so called Coloured voice" from J'burg to sell to people in CPT. Let me guess you research probably shows that, those kind of advertising works.....in actual fact it alienates them even further..
Speak to the real people that matter, not your old antiquated method's of research.... Posted on 11 Jan 2006 10:47
ok everybody, NOBODY wants to talk to you, cos SOMEBODY has yanked ur chain, what u going on about? dude, check ur self, stick to the forum, else, get some bricks, some cement, a few engineers, and dude, build a bridge, c ya(maybe not)
Ishmaiel, get your facts straight b4 talking about stuff you don't know coz clearly Ryan will NEVER leave a kwaai station like Good Hope for a low-budget station like P4. Dude, really now, that's wishful thinking. Maybe in another lifetime, then again, maybe not!!! Posted on 11 Jan 2006 11:59
i mean really dude, wake up! east coast radio is one of the top revenue generators in south african radio,(top 4) if a master craftsmen in radio can leave ecr to take up the p4 challenge, who the hell is a "radio dj" god? i dont think so, radio dj's, good ones, are the products of genius programmers and managers, so dude, wake up and smell the whatever it is u smell in cape town, ps, the mountains "ma se" dankie
Listen guys, let's just agree to disagree dudes, this is just a forum to chat about differing opinions.
I think that it's starting to get a tad juvenile in here, let's just wait and see what happens with all the changes, people always go up in arms when changes are made, but sometimes they are necessary to refresh things. Let's see if Gavin has got it right or not, time will tell.
so then why are you dissing Durban we are all part of South Africa (Dbn, CT, Jhb)! maybe you are ashamed of this country. we should be standing together and helping each other achieve bigger and better things not slating each other and the provinces we live in. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 08:56
Some of us have let our egos get in the way of our intelligence which has taken this forum to the dogs.
We need to stick to the topic; The Changes On 104.9... not GHFM vs P4 or DBN vs CT (and certainly not about who has better conventions) because the results of those topics essentially come down to personal tastes.
Let's crack on, chat and celebrate the magic that is radio.
Siyabonga Bra Mandla, let's just stick to having some healthy debate people, I think we're equally passionate about radio, so let's just rap and stop getting personal with the attacks....... Posted on 11 Jan 2006 13:43
I have it on good authority that the Jacaranda Morning show host was seen going to the P4 studios and is waiting to make his move back to the Cape in June. His reign at Jacaranada, caused 20% loss is listners thus far. There is also a rumour that he was offered R70 000 a month. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 14:07
I doubt Mr Meiring would be silly enough ... kieno is one oak they don't need on p4. He stuffed up something silly making a comment about the female idols judge in his first week at jacaranda. He's a wannabe that should have stuck to talk radio. P4 need a real dj for breakfast. They are gonna have to import a real name - someone who's been there and done that ... to take over, not somebody wet behind the ears Posted on 11 Jan 2006 14:27
Am I the only one who thinks it's sad we just have to keep recycling the same old DJ's round and round between the stations? How about somebody taking the time to invest in training new talent - now there's a novelty. There are plenty of talented, intelligent people out there who would rise to the challenge. Try some of the young bloods on the airwaves in retail radio or some of the community stations for starters. Kieno, Lee Downs, Gillman and any of the other so-called "big name" DJs who think their loud, arrogant, juvenile humour is amusing to the bulk of the population, should be put into permanent retirement. Give us somebody who will shut up and respect both the music and the audience, instead of spending his show imposing his own loud (usually uninformed) opinions. I mean please, Aden spends the breakfast show talking about people's toilet habits - is this really the best we can do for a supposedly high class adult station?
PS - If P4 has R70 000 to pay Kieno I will eat my headphones. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:24
Hey dude would dig to know who you are. Sounds like u been there, done that. u sure u not just a poser instead of a playa. Prove it - who'd u work with or know in the bizz. How about proving your cred ? Good to know that their are following radio out their Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:33
I hear you. Commercial Radio these days is in such a hurry to start counting cash that they find ways to fast-track revenue. The 1st and formost concern is listeners. You can't beat a good listenership for a radio station... more listeners means more advertisers which means more money. And should advertisers back down across the board with all radio advertising, you still have listeners to stimulate and that's what great radio is about. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:36
But somewhere along the line new talent needs experience. Someone need to give fresh talent a big-break. DJ's just like actors, production folk, and marketing execs all need to be groomed. We're too afraid to let go and we end up losing out on the good stuff. But sadly the knowledge of these traits are all things you can't measure with figures, you have to play it by ear these days and no-one does that. It's all figures figures figures... Posted on 11 Jan 2006 16:06
Would prefer Kieno over Jeannie. Kieno is very familiar with the Cape town audiences having worked at GHFM and Cape Talk before. Plus 104.9 needs a presenter with a strong personality such as Kieno if they are to compete with Nigel Pierce, Nic Marais and Mike Wills on 567. All these three guys I've mentioned are strong and 104.9 will need to find someone equally as strong. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 14:44
Yeah Starrr u right man. They need to get somebody who is known to Cape Town listeners. They cant just move any dj into the breakfast show. Lee Down's sounds cool in the PM. Who else is there. They want a guy or girl who has been there an done that. Maybe Gillman wants to come back to live in Ctn? Posted on 11 Jan 2006 14:50
Yo Rob I doubt if Gillman wants to come back to CT, he is doing well over in Jozi. In Cape Town Radio I don't see anyone doing a good job at the 1049 breakfast slot other than the breakfast jocks at ghfm and Kfm. If Meiring wants a big gun from Cape Town he will have to poach either Nigel Pierce, Nic Marais or Ryann O'connor. I dont see how any of these 3 guys I've mentioned would leave their comfortable posts unless it were for more money. It seems then that Gavin meiring has a tough assignment on his hands. I'll suggest to Gavin that he checksout this guy on 567, Tom London. Tom does the Weekend Breakfast on 567 and 702 and I must say that kid impresses me. He is also familiar with Cape town audiences. He is the closest thing to a big gun that Gavin could look at hiring. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:02
Definitely not Keano and definitely not any1 from GHFM. Nigel, Nic, Ryan - they are all well established in their positions. Yes, you can't do what you do forever but Nigel has only been doing breakfast for less than a year since his return to GHope and the same with Ryan. He did breakfast but he rocks doing drive. Nic?? Well I'm not a KFM fan. My dad likes him though. Regarding Gillman, if you check the news, Gillman just renewed his contract for another year. THAT'S HOW PASSIONATE I AM ABOUT RADIO. I read the news!And not just current affairs. So to all you haters frm KZN and 104.9 country - get your facts STRAIGHT! Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:13
I agree with Randall. He obviously knows quality. The Fast Lane is quality. 180 minutes of sheer quality radio. Take a hint Lee. P4 couldn't afford the GH drive team. Sorry P4. These guy earn real money. Zim dollars just wont do.
The Fast Lane flies the flag for superbative radio.
CT are you with me. Let's start a fan base and share our favourite Fast Lane moments
and what the fuck is superbative radio. If that's the kind of minless stuff going on at GHFM's drive show, then I'm way better off, listening to some intelligent programming on 89.5 fm on Bush Radio. Perhaps this fast lane guys can pick up a thing or two from some real radio heads at community radio. Posted on 12 Jan 2006 09:05
What's really depressing is that those who join this discussion for reasons other than broadcasting, find and construct personal stabs at each other and fail to see that they have wasted their time and achieved absolutely nothing, and because of this it's almost not worth it for a broadcasting enthusiast to come here and read through this long pile of garbage... I don't even want to disclose a name in case someone from DBN or CTN gets their noses bent out of shape...
Please guys, don't come here to own this page... this isn't turf or territory... top dan and co... please take it somewhere else. Posted on 12 Jan 2006 13:52
I have no idea who they are, that's why I said that and no one forces me to listen anything that I don't want to. I was also pointing out the fact that the so called great fast lane listeners can not spell. Else, would you mind explaining to me the exact meaning of the word "superbative" Take a word from the wise my brother, ignorance is in fact bliss.
Yeah... actually I'm not sure. I don't listen to P4 CT so I don't really know but I would imagine Gillman's style to be a little inappropriate for Urban/Jazz music lovers, but you never know. A good DJ modifies to suit the station and not expect it to be vice versa. If he could do that, Kfm better watch out... Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:06
Zoomster my darling, why on earth would Gillman leave the best national radio station in the country for a low-budget regional radio station??? Don't you all think it's a bit dumb? People move up in the world, not down! Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:10
Yeah guess u right, Gillman won't leave 5 to come down to P4, plus they probly cant afford him. They will have to find another Starrr (sorry starrr that slipped out). Where are the other GHFM jocks from a few years ago. Do u know? Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:16
Thanks for solving the puzzle man. I've been wondering wherre these djs went to for ages now. Its like they vanished into space. p4 should hook one of them up for the new station b4 someone else does. They also need Nate Dog back ! to spin the ol skool Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:51
The grapevine at the Sabc at the moment seems to suggest that Gillman is on his way out of 5. Remember that last he renewed his contract with 5 to expire this coming April. Many insiders say that his contract might not be renewed for the breakfast show. But again its just speculation. Maybe Robbie and Zoomster might be on the money about Gillman on 1049. However his contract with 5 expires in April and Aden is leaving at the end of the Month, a bit of a problem there. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:17
No u check, Gillman has his own company and sumtimes people leave their day jobs so that they can concentrate on a business that's actually making money especially if you've been in the industry so long and there's nothing more to do. Catching my drift here??? Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:20
Nate Dogg and all of those other guys were pretty good at the time but in my humble opinion they are past their sell by dates. For-instance Jacaranda tried Rob vega very recently on Weekend breakfast just after highveld had done the same. Needless to say he did not crack it because he is no longer at both stations. Radio has changed in a big way and if gavin hired any of these past Ghfm jocks, he would be doing a dis-service to 1049 and its progressive listeners. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:32
Ok so finally somebody's adressing our huge problem we have in the mother city - good on air talent!! Pierce is so over-rated and screaming in the morning ( except from a passionate morning workout) really isn't my thing, Marais - too soft and girlish, Downs - very knowledgeable with the industry but way over-ripe, Barnard - real FOSSIL - take a retirement plan at your b and b bru! O'Conner - worth listening to at least, Jeanie D - so caught up in herself???? Where can we get consistant talent? Not 5, Cliff sucks and as for Zuraida? Meisie please! I've had more fun watching paint dry!!!! Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:40
Zuraida has the personality of a watermelon! There's nothing there but juice and pips. Gareth is dik boring (yawn)! Personally I'm digging the boys - Ian F and Sasha - and koula on 5fm. On GHFM, Ryan really makes the drive home entertaining. I'm loving Tyrone as well. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:42
If you have been listening to Gillman you would agree that he has been a bit mediocre these days. he is still going on an old formula and in my opinion needs to re-invent himself fast. otherwise he is running the risk of being absolete in a few years time if he continues with Breakfast at 5. he needs to move over to the drive perhaps. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:26
Radio bus facts. There's a mag which i read late last year and it stated that 5fm is the best with metro in at a close 2nd. reason why 5fm is so successful is bcoz of their variety - they play hip hop, r&b, rock, dance, kwaito and they are national whereas metro only plays a certain genre of music. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:34
That magazine you read man had its facts twisted. As far as I know 5 and metro despite their national status had their butts kicked by Jacaranda and East Coast who raked in over 3 hundred million last year alone. Gavin meiring instrumental in East coast's top notch status amd now he is at 1049 to do the same. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:42
Alot of stations play that variety. They're catering to a national audience; they have to. Anyway, I do listen to 5 from time to time and I appreciate their diversity in music as an SA Top 40 national station, but their content "can like to be kak" if you feel me... as a revenue generating business on the other hand, they're not doing that well. Posted on 11 Jan 2006 15:49
Here is an idea maybe they should come up with Tvradio, where listeners can enjoy listening and looking at their fav jock. Why are looks so imporatant for radio these days anyway. What happened to the validity of the phrase "You have a face for radio". Posted on 11 Jan 2006 16:07
Dude, I totally agree. I like to switch between stations and 5fm, GHFM, Metro, KFM, etc. they like to play a song vrek.BUT if you look at a few months ago when they screwed their playlist. Do you know how many listeners they had??? I enjoy the variety. i'm a rocker to the bone. I love GHFM coz it's local and they keep it real - I can't vriet jAZZ! Thus 5fm is good. Between 9am and 3pm, GHFM tends to go in a slumber coz where they get that music from, heaven knows. ITS SUPER KAK! Posted on 11 Jan 2006 16:06
I just wanna know 1 thing. What's ur beef with CPT? It's not like Good Hope is in competition with East Coast. Or r u just jealous coz u lack such a tight ass station?? Haai shame! Enjoy listening 2 ur station there & stop commenting on our station here! verstaan???? Posted on 11 Jan 2006 16:20
what are u on about? think durban people eat curry only? yeah sure we have the best weed, the hottest chicks, the widest streets, but dont let this fool you china, were equally adept at chowing down perlemoen as we enjoy the occasional curry, dont get stereotypical now, lest we say, "lets beat the "snoek" out of cape town people, dont thank me, dis glad my plesier, over and out, ps, MAZ ROCKS Posted on 11 Jan 2006 16:38
u aint seen jack homie, i mean that dog, unless of course u really aint into chicks then i seez ur dilemma, of course i dont judge you by that homie, i still love you, i mean, like you, i mean, its all good, you know, keep it real,(as friends) Posted on 11 Jan 2006 16:43
Kyk hie, who died and made you president of this forum? Children should be seen not heard so go back & do something constructive - like suck your thumb. Come diss me here, r u psycho mofu? Posted on 11 Jan 2006 16:49
There's no need for this... no need to bitch. top dan cmon , drop the bad languaghe you're mashing thins up and this is everything Zoomie and Mandla said was happening... lOSING oUR fOCUS oN rADIO. now as someone said earlier... can I get an AMEN up in here...?!?! anybody...? okay shaap...! Posted on 11 Jan 2006 18:19
.this hideous, foul mouthed good hope fm fan, who just happens to be from china, good thing theres a billion more... and BTW "mo fo", i cant see you, u could be nigerian for all i care, ok CHINA, cool Posted on 12 Jan 2006 11:33
Why are you so racist? What's your beef with Nigerians? They are people too. FYI I'm not Nigerian! And what's race gotta do with it? I'm not Nigerian, or Chinese - I'm South African! Posted on 12 Jan 2006 12:09
if one mentions race, theyre racist, dont try and stir unecessary shit dude, no ones being racist here, especially me, i didnt grow up in a democracy, i was opressed too china, ooops sorry, its a durban thing, anyway, im no racist dude, lets leave this thing alone now, go back to work ch..i mean dude Posted on 12 Jan 2006 12:33
dude, good luck with gh, with fans like you they might as well throw themselves into the atlantic, its obvious your ass has been creamed, so print this voucher for a free "kiss my ass" from me, hola 6 point 9 Posted on 12 Jan 2006 12:45
No my dear - ur ass is grass! Coz thats the only thing you've been smoking up in KZN. You're just pissed coz you're getting a whipping from a girl!!! And this girl don't need to work - thank you very much! Cheers!I'm out Posted on 12 Jan 2006 13:06
how can i pissed bout getting a whipping from a girl when i wasnt even sure ure from this planet? oh excuse me, ur from cape town, same thing, ok now , play nicely with daddy's money then Posted on 12 Jan 2006 13:21
And yes I will spend daddy's money wisely. Maybe you need a new mind? A new brain? Or wait-maybe you need sanity? That can be arranged...you in the wrong forum dude, it ain't about you. get over urself. it's about radio - not top dan! Sorry to be the bearer of bad news!! Now leave me alone, stalker! Posted on 12 Jan 2006 13:26
PEOPLE- let's be serious and talk radio only, PLEASE!!-
This is not about CT Vs Durban or GHFM Vs P4 etc, etc. This is about people who are actually passionate about P4 Radio and radio. So please, those who want to debate this, let's talk P4 Radioand the others who want to mess around, do so in another forum, PLEASE!!! Posted on 12 Jan 2006 09:30
I've been scared to make further comments as a none radio person, but I think Mr Meiring should not try and fix something which is not broken. However a refreshed DJ lineup with Aden and Clarence would be great as they appeal to the Older market. Maybe a lineup like this: -6 to 10 Mark Gillman -10 to 1 Aden, with Lisa Chiat -1 to 4 Clarence -4 to 7 Lee - 7 to 10 Natano - 10 to 2 Bongani
Wow, that will have the P4 people and other's listening!! Posted on 12 Jan 2006 09:38
Kurt is responsible for the All Good slamming jams you hear on Good Hope FM. He selects all the songs on the station's play list and ensures that our listeners stay tuned to Good Hope FM by scheduling the best possible mix of music for the DJs. Kurt is also responsible for music research, music features and the Good Hope FM Top 40 Posted on 13 Jan 2006 10:08
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THOSE WHO CONTRIBUTED: -GAVIN MEIRING -MANDLA -ZOOMSTER -TOP DAN -GHFM FAN -KURT -GHFM -RAH -TREVOR FRANCIS -ALBERT -RANDALL -PAUL -KASHIF -FOR HIS DIRTY MOUTH -ROSE -RUDI -DJZJ - OTHERS-I FORGOT TO MENTION
ABOVE ALL RYAN OÇONNER,FOR MAKING THIS FUN!!!! Posted on 13 Jan 2006 13:05
I do not care for the new name or the way its managed.however its critical that RADIO in SA realize is that we need to breakaway from foreign charts and create a radio station that is focused on its demographics.
This come from an EX PROGRAMMES MANAGER Posted on 13 Jan 2006 21:37
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